tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1051713021757781960.post2410277142091276869..comments2023-10-31T10:57:37.652+00:00Comments on Epiphenom: Do secular see religious Jews as more trustworthy?Epiphenomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05420404206189437710noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1051713021757781960.post-10624242899454901972010-07-31T17:50:22.622+01:002010-07-31T17:50:22.622+01:00I think a balance still holds sway.
I’m no expert ...I think a balance still holds sway.<br />I’m no expert on the sadistics of the situation, but judging from the local papers, California is prosecuting about as many police for rape and abuse as there are priests facing prosecution in the world, the priests make more headlines simply because their offences are less anticipated.J. A. Le Fevrenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1051713021757781960.post-86882285698341779452010-07-30T22:25:06.290+01:002010-07-30T22:25:06.290+01:00On the other hand, few people are religious in Sca...On the other hand, few people are religious in Scandinavia and yet they seem to do OK without a big police force. The problem with the idea that god acts as a 'policeman in your head' is that the God concept is malleable. Few people do things that they believe are wrong. Rather, they convince themselves that their behaviour is justified for some reason - because of their special circumstances, for instance. Or they just have flat out denial. If they then convince themselves that God thinks the same as them (and they usually often do) then the 'policeman in the head' is no deterrent. Hence all the abusive priests etc. <br /><br />External standards and openness are far more effective.Epiphenomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05420404206189437710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1051713021757781960.post-6797837763974042172010-07-30T22:18:46.173+01:002010-07-30T22:18:46.173+01:00Tom, were you in Mexico (Iran, Afghanistan etc.) r...Tom, were you in Mexico (Iran, Afghanistan etc.) right now, you might feel differently. Stalin sided with you, but trebled the size of the force to compensate. Most communities find a balance of real and imaginary police to be most effective overall.J. A. Le Fevrenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1051713021757781960.post-52303544524978023792010-07-29T22:01:03.449+01:002010-07-29T22:01:03.449+01:00Yeah - give me a real policemen over an imaginary ...Yeah - give me a real policemen over an imaginary one any day!Epiphenomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05420404206189437710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1051713021757781960.post-45230826281598601282010-07-29T21:45:08.124+01:002010-07-29T21:45:08.124+01:00Thinking about it from a practical perspective, yo...Thinking about it from a practical perspective, your safest bet is probably the fitness center... At least, that's assuming it's anything like US gyms. They have an ID on every single person going in and out of those places. Running a cellphone-stealing con in a gym... bad idea. You'd last about half a day.James Sweethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212877636980569324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1051713021757781960.post-4288756279918481722010-07-26T13:31:18.762+01:002010-07-26T13:31:18.762+01:00I find this very depressing. The ultra-Orthodox ha...I find this very depressing. The ultra-Orthodox have a stranglehold on Israeli society, are draining its social services system to the point of national bankruptcy and are increasingly responsible for acts of violence. Secular Israelis (along with liberal Jews worldwide) complain constantly about this. If this study is accurate - that is, if it was conducted properly and the results are being interpreted correctly - it would tend to explain why nothing has been done to attempt to remedy the situation. <br /><br />Tragically, it would also indicate an even lower potential for change than many of us have assumed.Jeff Eygeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11967707883565162538noreply@blogger.com